@narrator, the only thing I agree with on your list is changing the writer.
I'm not going to lie, I would love to see what a different director can bring to this, much the same way Paul Greengrass seemed to come in and be the perfect fit for the style of movie the Bourne films needed to be.
I feel as though Bay would be much more suited for the G.I. Joe franchise since he loves working with military elements so much.
However that being said, I also like his work on DOTM, he finally moved in what I felt was the right direction, it had far less comedy than the previous 2, no teenage love BS that has no place in these films, and felt grittier with high stakes. I'm not saying it's a shining example of story telling but it was a good sign that they finally heard what people wanted from the movies.
I hate to break it to all the fans of the G1 series but they aren't going to make the robot designs simpler, you have to look at it from an artists point of view, even as a kid, to me those designs while they looked cool at the time, made no sense in a real sense... there was no thought to scale and transformation style and all that makes the illusion possible. If you watch a movie with g1 designs in a real world setting, it would be as bad as watching Power Rangers. It's just not an artistically sound option. Think about the fact that they designed these things from the ground up to be something that when they transform, you don't question the possibility of it cause it looks like if a car transformed into a robot that's what it might look like. All the parts have to fit otherwise you sit there noticing and calling out every little inconsistency. Remember how badly cut ROTF was? when characters would be in one place in one scene then a completely different place the next and it made you shake your fist at the screen? this would be worse than that.
As for the inclusion of humans in the movie, it has to be done again for the illusion, you can't have a giant alien robot war happen on earth without humans noticing and governments trying to butt in. It's logic, pure and simple. You can make a movie based on cybertron, cut out human involvement and hope that people want to see a movie that has no people in it.... good luck making a profit from that.
Remember Firefly? that's what happens when you appease your loyal fans and don't generate enough buzz with anyone else to stay in business. Then they call you a cult classic, pat you on the back and say "yay you didn't sell out"... but now no one can have more firefly even though the fans want it.
Now going back to your list, I also wanted to point out that you forget Spielberg went with Bay on this... he is the one who made the call, he asked Bay if he wanted it and initially Bay didn't even want it cause he didn't think it was possible to make anything out of Transformers as a series, til Hasbro sold him on there idea.
I'm not going to lie, I would love to see what a different director can bring to this, much the same way Paul Greengrass seemed to come in and be the perfect fit for the style of movie the Bourne films needed to be.
I feel as though Bay would be much more suited for the G.I. Joe franchise since he loves working with military elements so much.
However that being said, I also like his work on DOTM, he finally moved in what I felt was the right direction, it had far less comedy than the previous 2, no teenage love BS that has no place in these films, and felt grittier with high stakes. I'm not saying it's a shining example of story telling but it was a good sign that they finally heard what people wanted from the movies.
I hate to break it to all the fans of the G1 series but they aren't going to make the robot designs simpler, you have to look at it from an artists point of view, even as a kid, to me those designs while they looked cool at the time, made no sense in a real sense... there was no thought to scale and transformation style and all that makes the illusion possible. If you watch a movie with g1 designs in a real world setting, it would be as bad as watching Power Rangers. It's just not an artistically sound option. Think about the fact that they designed these things from the ground up to be something that when they transform, you don't question the possibility of it cause it looks like if a car transformed into a robot that's what it might look like. All the parts have to fit otherwise you sit there noticing and calling out every little inconsistency. Remember how badly cut ROTF was? when characters would be in one place in one scene then a completely different place the next and it made you shake your fist at the screen? this would be worse than that.
As for the inclusion of humans in the movie, it has to be done again for the illusion, you can't have a giant alien robot war happen on earth without humans noticing and governments trying to butt in. It's logic, pure and simple. You can make a movie based on cybertron, cut out human involvement and hope that people want to see a movie that has no people in it.... good luck making a profit from that.
Remember Firefly? that's what happens when you appease your loyal fans and don't generate enough buzz with anyone else to stay in business. Then they call you a cult classic, pat you on the back and say "yay you didn't sell out"... but now no one can have more firefly even though the fans want it.
Now going back to your list, I also wanted to point out that you forget Spielberg went with Bay on this... he is the one who made the call, he asked Bay if he wanted it and initially Bay didn't even want it cause he didn't think it was possible to make anything out of Transformers as a series, til Hasbro sold him on there idea.