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  1. Beauty123456789

    dose any body want to be friends

    1 year agoby @beauty123456789Flag

  2. undeadslayer4

    this is retarded

    1 year agoby @undeadslayer4Flag

  3. undeadslayer4

    @dan1 i wish arya would be more like an assassin

    1 year agoby @undeadslayer4Flag

  4. Dan

    @skywise He's constantly the underdog, like Arya.

    2 years agoby @dan1Flag

  5. skywise

    @dan1@bawnian-dexeus Davos is another character i really like. At first i didnt know what to make of him but he really grew on me.

    2 years agoby @skywiseFlag

  6. Bawnian©-Dexeus

    @dan1 Oh, I never have an issue with the sex. In an unrelated note, Jessica needs more scenes in that department.

    2 years agoby @bawnian-dexeusFlag

  7. Dan

    @bawnian-dexeus It wasn't an issue at all as the season progressed.

    And yeah, Davos survived.

    2 years agoby @dan1Flag

  8. skywise

    @dan1 ya thats disgusting. I have really enjoyed Arya's story this season. I think she is my new favorite character but ya know, that is a constantly changing.

    2 years agoby @skywiseFlag

  9. Bawnian©-Dexeus

    @dan1@skywise Got to admit they leveled out the sex to explore the rest. I'm assuming the old man from the ship survived?

    2 years agoby @bawnian-dexeusFlag

  10. Dan

    @skywise Loved it. Especially the latter half of the season. Even with the liberties they took with the story, I thought it was satisfying. I agree that sometimes the nudity was a bit forced (there is a scene early on in the season in Littlefinger's brothel where one of his whor*s has c*m on her face, and he wipes it off, and she proceeds to make out with the next client... I could have did without that....), but I'm not a stiff about it, either. I pay extra money for HBO, I want to see some t*ts and blood at times.

    2 years agoby @dan1Flag

  11. skywise

    @dan1 what did you think of GoT season2?

    2 years agoby @skywiseFlag

  12. Nicholaus XX

    @skywise -- It really does suck. I remember reading how one or two people wrote a full-review, only for it to not go through/accidentally clicked backspace at the wrong moment. I can only imagine how they felt.

    Ha ha! I may start doing the same whenever my post consist of fifty words or more. Well, expect my reply Friday or so!

    2 years agoby @XxNickTheFilmCriticXxFlag

  13. skywise

    @XxNickTheFilmCriticXx ugh! I hate it when that happens.

    I have now make a habit of copying everything i am about to post because that actually happens to me more than i would like to admit.

    2 years agoby @skywiseFlag

  14. Nicholaus XX

    @skywise -- LOL! I just replied to all your points, and accidentally looked up something on the same page. Needless to say, that post never saw the light.

    I'll be sure to reply to them all over again(f*ck me) tomorrow, or so. I'll do so on your profile, if you don't mind.

    2 years agoby @XxNickTheFilmCriticXxFlag

  15. skywise

    @XxNickTheFilmCriticXx You know now that you mention it i do recall that sex scene in Band of Brothers but it really was in no way gratuitous. I think it was handled rather well.

    I am really not here to try and change your opinion one way or the other but as i said, its definatly a conversation worth having.

    I believe that if they are creating smart shows for a smart audience then most of the time the nudity is really unwarented unless it furthers the plot or reveals character details.

    It must be obvious that i feel very stongly about the way GoT is presented and although it can never be as good as the book (I dont know why people always act surprised when the movie or tv show isnt as good as the book - it is a very rare thing for that to happen if it ever has) it does showcase good acting, great scenery and excellent set and costumes details as well as a healthy dose of drama with a little action thrown in for good measure.

    I also love Breaking Bad. These are my 2 fav shows right now with Dexter and Doctor Who trailing.

    In the end its simply personal preference.

    2 years agoby @skywiseFlag

  16. Nicholaus XX

    @skywise -- I watched a decent amount of Band of Brothers, but not enough to form a valid opinion. I think they added one sex scene in Band of Brothers, though. It barely counts, but it's worth mentioning. I haven't watched a second of Pacific, however. I have no problem with swearing in war movies, but it can get annoying/forced in rare cases (The Hurt Locker). Haven't watched True Blood, neither.

    Game of Thrones does feature sex scenes that feel apart of the story, but sometimes it feels forced, and random(particularly in season 1). I think HBO bites more than they can chew(episode length), and wind up adding more filler than necessary. Honestly, I don't find the scenes depicting nudity "entertaining". They serve as eye-candy, sure, but entertaining? That's what porn is for. Yeah, good point -- The Wire is a good example.

    Agreed.

    Breaking Bad does have strong language(If you watch it on DVD, or on Netflix, you'll see what I mean), but it's used when it needs to be used. I also heard the pilot contains brief nudity, but Netflix censored the pilot, for what ever reason. I suppose.

    I didn't know some of what you mentioned in your last post, thanks for the info.

    2 years agoby @XxNickTheFilmCriticXxFlag

  17. skywise

    oh and as far as HBO getting views, they are getting them its just that they determine the ratings in a different way than basic or reg tv. They look at the entire weeks run and the DVR recordings. in the end they get around 9 Million viewers and that is quite a lot of a premium cable channel. HBO still has one of the biggest, if not the biggest subscription base in premium cable. Plus they premium cable channels take into account things like critical acclaaim, word of mouth and the emmys. The Wire for instance had a meesly 4 million viewers at its peek and slumped down to under 1 million in the final episodes but because of the critical response it was given 5 seasons.

    2 years agoby @skywiseFlag

  18. skywise

    @XxNickTheFilmCriticXx Sex does sale no question but there have been HBO shows that had absolutly no sex. Band of Brothers and Pacific jump to mind right away. Of course there was cursing and as a soldier i can assure you that makes up a large portion of infintry language. In some cases the sex scenes are gratuitous (I'm looking at you True Blood) but that is sort of part of the world Charlene Harris created although Sookie does not have sex in every book. It is really not that integral to the plot most of the time. But In Game of Thrones I think there is an element that goes back a long way to the 19th century paintings in which it appears that nudity was permissable and casual. That fits with the type of world Martin created and most of the sex scenes are lifted straight from the source material.

    Some characters have had an inflated role in the show and could be considered gratuitous but in all reality serve a purpose to the story and further certain characters and their motives. A whor* who is basicaly considered livestock would be in a position to overhear things that other characters could not and so we the viewer in turn hear those things. (I'm thinking of Ros here and Littlefinger and her encounters with Theon). Those scenes might not have been in the books but what great scenes they were.

    Now it is true that many sex scenes or nudity scenes serve as a way to make exposition more bearable (i am thinknig of Al Swearengin's long monologues to prostotutes who are doing their thing on him). Those monologues are excellent and for me the nudity was hardly noticable because i hung on Swearengin's every word. however, dim wits like my roomate get bored with all the talky talk and like to see breasts. I dont blame him, i get it. This isn't new to HBO though. This has been going on a loong time in movie history. Think back to all the cop dramas where someone is being questioned in a strip club and they are seated just perfetly enough to get all the dancers swinging on their poles in the background.

    Still the nudity issue is worth having a conversation about because a lot of times I feel that is there simply to hide bad writing. Like the writing in the Wire you mentioned (which i am just starting on season 1 - and that does sound painfull BTW).

    As far as Breaking Bad on HBO? I couldnt agree more. AMC needed to branch out into longform drama and that was the perfect vehicle to do it. It has quickly become my favorite basic cable channel and i enjoy all the shows they have (not to mention the great movies). Yes BB found a wonderful home and because its on basic you get nothing but the story, the drama. no swearing and no nudity. It works great for that show but i honestly couldn't see Game of Thrones without it and that is not because i am some depraved pervert...its just part of the world.

    Having said that, relying on nudity during every behind doors discussion of polotics can become tiring if there are too many of them. The audience may feel like they are being treated like idiots for not being able to get through it without seeing a breast. GoT is a clever show, its not garbage and the writing is good and the acting great, so in a way it does feel a little like exploitation. For some audience members, yourself included i take it, it may be hard to take the show seriously even though it demands to be taken just that way.

    2 years agoby @skywiseFlag

  19. Nicholaus XX

    @skywise -- I haven't watched Rome, and I've only watched the pilot for Deadwood, so I can't comment there. Yeah, which is why fans were(are?) getting nervous that Game Of Thrones would meet the same fate, so they started buying season 1 on DVD/Blu-ray.

    True.

    Actually, I saw a little bit of The Sopranos on AMC, but I couldn't tell if they took anything out(besides language, I think). AMC does an amazing job at censoring, so a lot of things will go unnoticed. Eh, I don't know about that. I'm really grateful that HBO didn't get Breaking Bad. Why? Because it would've been a completely different show, and contained corny/cheesy moments. They would also put in pervasive(unnessary) language, gratuitous nudity/sex, and minimized the quality.

    I hear amazing things about "The Wire", and while season 1 is good, it's noticeably flawed. The acting isn't great, and the writing is flat-out terrible. There's a scene in season 1 where two of the main characters have to investigate a crime scene, and the dialogue quickly shifts into the F word in quite possibly every variation. They pause, "F*ck" -- investigate "F*ck", and upon conclusion - "Motherf*cker!". I don't remember the very beginning of the scene(whether they used actual dialogue), but the entire scene was constructed on swearing, pausing/investigating, and swearing.

    It is, by far, the most cringe worthy scene(when it comes to premimum shows) that I've encountered. Absolutely pathetic!

    I can understand the use of sex, nudity, language, and violence when it's vital to the story, but why does HBO put pervasive language in every(correct me if I'm wrong) show they make? It in no way needs to be there(most of the time), let alone in Game Of Thrones! That's one of the things I hate about HBO; they put inappropriate content in every one of their shows, just because they can! Can you be any lazier? The Lord Of The Rings is considered an epic by many, and they didn't swear once! So, how is it prevalent/necessary in Game Of Thrones?

    I think that's one of the main reasons why HBO isn't getting enough views, and cancelled three(that I know of) of their biggest shows ever. Is that a coincidence? I think not. HBO doesn't have to neuter their shows, they just have to know when to put a random scene of people f*cking, and when not to.

    I personally believe the content and fact that you have to be a HBO subscriber have a lot to do with HBO's shortcomings. I may be wrong, though.

    What do you think? If you think I'm flat-out wrong, let me know. Maybe I'm not seeing their intentions clearly, maybe sex really does sell?

    @dan1@ejk1 -- Let me know what you think.

    2 years agoby @XxNickTheFilmCriticXxFlag

  20. skywise

    @XxNickTheFilmCriticXx I really cant argue with any of those points as much as my head is telling me too. I know that i love this show because it is really the first of it's kind that doesnt look like Hercules or Xena and damned if i didn't love those shows too but for completely different reasons. Rome was awesome and so was Deadwood. I think Rome ended right where they needed it too but the demise of Deadwood was a terrible thing to do to the fans of that show (and the cast). Now the thing about the budget is that premium cable shows are based on subscriptions and are constantly trying to pull in new subs so they will play their show over and over all week since their is no Nielson ratings but a quick look at the numbers shows that GoT averages about 3 million viewers on its premier night. On basic cable or regular tv that is a cancelation after one season for a show like this. "Non-premeium shows are a delivery vehicle for advertising-and if a program doesn't attract a big enough audience for those ads, the consequences are clear: It's pulled from the schedule, and a new show is dropped into the time slot." Audience is just another word for advertisement viewer for non-premium shows. Also because HBO doesnt have a any marketers to offend they can swear, screw sand splatter blood all over the picture. If you've ever watched the watered down reg tv version of The sorpranos you know what a difference it makes. AMC is a lot like HBO in some ways but it still depends on advertisements for its programs which does not take away from the drama but definatly limits what it could be and damnit, I really hate commercials.

    2 years agoby @skywiseFlag

  21. Nicholaus XX

    One word: Improvement. The aforementioned is what Game of Thrones is begging for, and oh-so needs. Big battle scenes? Never take place onscreen. Editing? Sporadically incoherent. CGI/Make-up? Need work. Decapitated heads look fake, and stale. So does the CGI, at times. These things constantly take me out of the story, and remind me that I'm only watching a TV show -- which prevents me from being compelled by any occurring events.

    Oh, and did I mention that the cliche's are plentiful - at times - completely unbelievable? "Unbelievable" may not be the word I should use to describe such a show, but when someone halts a chase, when all they have to do is look around the corner in order to make the catch, you know somethings wrong.

    2 years agoby @XxNickTheFilmCriticXxFlag

  22. Summit10

    this show rocks!!! :D Can't wait for Season 2...
    1. the Lannister's will have their hands full left and right.
    2. can't wait for the Stark family to beat the crap out of the Lannister's!
    3. Sansa deserves her predicament (gullible and pathetic)
    4. Jon will have his day coming...to be recognized as a true warrior and as a Stark!
    5. Let Jaime roth in his cell (a little more beating)
    6. Tyrion is excellent as always!
    7. I'm glad Arya is going to The Wall at least his beloved half-brother can be with her...
    8. Robb is busy now please try your call later!
    9. Wish Tyrion can still have a change of heart...
    10 Joffrey Baratheon (ehem Lannister) is succeeding...villain to be despised nice one "Batboy"! :P

    PS: least we forget...Daenery's and her winged "babies" she bides her time until all will burn LOL :D

    2 years agoby @summit10Flag

  23. Summit10

    amalgamating every single intrigue, conflict and lust for power never gives a compromise...not even for The Wall and The Night Watch can cease. WAR IS COMING!

    3 years agoby @summit10Flag

  24. JR Vd Merwe

    Can not wait for season two...

    3 years agoby @JR-Vd-MerweFlag

  25. Brian

    Definitely kicking ass!

    3 years agoby @brianFlag

  26. Laura A. L

    Best Damn show on HBO even next to True Blood, which has fallen off of the rails.

    3 years agoby @Laura-A-LFlag

  27. WARRock

    AMAZING AND EPIC SHOW!!!!!

    3 years agoby @jcFlag