Warner Bros. Loses Superman Origin Rights
The ruling is based on the court's finding that these were not "works-made-for-hire" under the Copyright Act.
This means the Siegels -- repped by Marc Toberoff of Toberoff & Associates -- now control depictions of Superman's origins from the planet Krypton, his parents Jor-El and Lora, Superman as the infant Kal-El, the launching of the infant Superman into space by his parents as Krypton explodes and his landing on Earth in a fiery crash.
The first Superman story was published in 1938 in Action Comics No. 1. For $130, Jerry Siegel and co-creator Joel Schuster signed a release in favor of DC's predecessor, Detective Comics, and a 1974 court decision ruled they signed away their copyrights forever.
In 2008, the same court order ruled on summary judgment that the Siegels had successfully recaptured (as of 1999) Siegel's copyright in Action Comics No. 1, giving them rights to the Superman character, including his costume, his alter-ego as reporter Clark Kent, the feisty reporter Lois Lane, their jobs at the Daily Planet newspaper working for a gruff editor, and the love triangle among Clark/Superman and Lois.
While ownership of the Man of Steel is one point of all this legal activity, the real issue is money and how much Warner Bros. and DC owe the Siegels from profits they collected from Superman since 1999, when the heirs' recapture of Siegel's copyright became effective.
DC owns other elements like Superman's ability to fly, the term kryptonite, the Lex Luthor and Jimmy Olsen characters, Superman's powers and expanded origins.
In a statement, Warner Bros. and DC said, "Warner and DC Comics are pleased that the court has affirmed that the vast majority of key elements associated with the Superman character that were developed after Action Comics No. 1 are not part of the copyrights that the plaintiffs have recaptured and therefore remain solely owned by DC Comics."
Sources: Variety
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Illuminati
i don't blame the Siegels at all. They did create the worlds' first comic SUPERHERO! (certainly the oldest continuing one). Since they didn't get paid sh*t on day 1.
My only concern is will this effect the new films getting made? Not like they could be worse than S.RETURNS anyway
2 years agoby @illuminatiFlag
-comrade-
Bummer. I hope they still do the reboot. Matt Bomer would be a great Clark Kent/Superman.
2 years agoby @taberjohnson18Flag
Vanboy
Brainiac would be sweet in a superman movie! Hell Yeah!!!
3 years agoby @vanboyFlag
CBF
I just seriously can't believe this. I mean Superman' whole incantation is in DC Comics, why would the Siegel Estate want to f*ck that up? Also what's up with the Shusters? I mean I thought Shuster co-owned Supes with Siegel.
As far as what it states that DC still owns the expanded origins, its hard to say really what that entails. They might involve the Brainiac/Kandor storyline, or other stuff completely. If only DC had made a comic mini-series that went into detail about Superman's origins and remained in canon to this day. They are making "Superman: Secret Origin" which is supposed to come out soon, but now who knows, anyway that is only from Clark's perspective as he grows up in Smallville so no Krypton stuff is in that.
I wish all this would get settled already. Anyone looking for definitive Superman material, check out "Superman: Last Son," it was written with Richard Donner who made the first 2 movies and the art is spectacular and story is rich. I have the digital file, if anyone is interested just msg me.
3 years agoby @comicbookfanFlag
Vanboy
The most recognisable comic book hero around the world and he keeps getting denied by everybody trying to make a buck. This is what kills the enjoyment of the movies. All this damn bitching about who the biological parents are. We don't care! They just need to shut up, get out of the way, and let the machine work like it's supposed to.
3 years agoby @vanboyFlag
knobie09
hell!!! D.C. might also make superman give up his clark kent alter-ego!!!
3 years agoby @knobie09Flag
knobie09
because of this... warner bros. might cancel "SMALLVILLE",and D.C. might as well kill lois lane and come up with another love intrest for clark kent/superman and nuke smallville with martha kent in it.
3 years agoby @knobie09Flag
J.A.Ottley.Writer / Director
It is pretty hard for writers these days. Newkill is partially correct you need contacts, these days it doesn't matter about your education, as long as you know how to do your job and are dedicated to it.
From my own personal experiences, i think its the way you personificate yourself to the producers or how you appeal to them in ypur proposal, treatment, pitch etc.
They need to know your not some next dickhe*d just wasting their time, they need to know your serious about this.
But the thing is with all these lawsuits attacking Superman, Warner, DC between the Siegel family is just f*cking up the whole process of making a brilliant Superman film, that we all so yearn for.
Also further note sriske is correct, Supes never started off flying, i've been recently reading the complete Action & Detective comics online, but i can't imagine Supes jumping building to building in the next film or free-running from building to building lol
3 years agoby @chronicFlag
The Narrator: The Better Man
Well that sucks. And Lock and Stock, best of luck. I'm with Newkill on how f*cked it almost is for every new writer. And zany...priceless.
3 years agoby @narratorFlag
Vanboy
Yahzee, you never offer anything productive. You just jab and run away giggling. Why don't you just leave people be and just go watch some porn or something.
3 years agoby @vanboyFlag
sriske
Ok friends lets not get our panties in a twist quite yet. The orgianl Action Comics concept of Superman is that he could leap tall buildings in a single bound. Out run a speeding bullet, and abnormally strong. In the comic he was only strong enough to lift a car over his head. His abilities have changed with each passing year, but 1st flight for Superman didn't start till the 1940s in an animated series. Like all of you I am too still waiting for a good Superman film. I say lets give Lock and Stock a chance.
3 years agoby @sriskeFlag
Lock and Stock
Newkill, you are right. But honestly whatever people say, or do. I'm still going to give it a shot, what so i have to lose......
3 years agoby @m-man360Flag
Chad Vital
Yeah this is retarded, what's the point of Superman if he can't do half the sh*t he is known for? F*cking butchering that character like no other with this sh*t. I thought he always flew from the beginning lol?
3 years agoby @chad-vitalFlag
J.A.Ottley.Writer / Director
LOL Zany, i feel sorry for superman now
Superman & The Traffic of NYC
3 years agoby @chronicFlag
Newkill3000
Lock and Stock, I'm not gonna call you a wannabe. I believe that you have a draft, but seriously, i don't think you have any idea how the film industry works man. yOu could have all the support from every user on this site and maybe the more sites, but that still wouldn't mean the film would get in. It's so hard now today to just have someone read a . These days the best way to really get ahead and strive is first off, move to L.A., because if you live anywhere else trust me you won't get anywhere, secondly, it would be really great if you knew someone who's already big in Hollywood. Best of luck to you, because if there's one thing i want before i die is a Superman movie that lives up to the greatness as the first two movies were.
3 years agoby @newkill200Flag
T.Clark
haha Nice, Zany
3 years agoby @insertusernamehereFlag
Lock and Stock
Look man, i really am not a wanna be, a wanna be is someone who poses as some guy he shant be. But i'm original, just give me a chance to make this film, all i need is a few days to finish my draft with concept art and pitch it.
3 years agoby @m-man360Flag
Yahzee
Who's the wanna be below this comment?
3 years agoby @yahzeeFlag
Lock and Stock
No FEAR guys, i have it under control, remeber all you have to do is support me. My draft is finished with concept art, all i have to do is pitch it and i will be done. You guys will get the Superman film you have always wanted with an interesting villain.
3 years agoby @m-man360Flag
mikehd
stuff like this is so stupid this is probably going to get into the hands of some stupid company like fox to butcher supermam like bryan singer did
3 years agoby @mikehdFlag
ZanyZap
So if Siegel wins back Superman's ability to fly, the Man of Steel will have to take a taxi everywhere in the next film... ;)
3 years agoby @zanyzapFlag
Robert Mata
i hope they get it back
3 years agoby @the-dark-knight10Flag