Jun 16, 2008 by The MovieWeb Team
New Two-Face Clip from The Dark Knight!
In the continuing viral campaign for The Dark Knight, viral website Gotham City Pizzeria opened for business today. Upon accessing the site you'll notice the letters "HA" wiggle if you roll-over the right spot. That said, roll-over enough times and you'll reveal a big red "HAHAHA" in the site's logo. Click to reveal a new clip from the film featuring Two-Face! Watch below or 
for the high-res video clip.
The Dark Knight was released July 18th, 2008 and stars Christian Bale, Heath Ledger, Aaron Eckhart, Michael Caine, Maggie Gyllenhaal, Gary Oldman, Morgan Freeman, Monique Gabriela Curnen. The film is directed by Christopher Nolan.
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ZanyZap
Definitely not the end. I agree partially with the person who quoted the Joker, "This city deserves a better class of criminal...and I'm gonna give it to 'em."
That might foreshadow future installments, implying "this city" as in Gotham will have strange, outlandish criminals (not including the Joker, such as Two-Face, The Riddler, The Penguin, etc.) I always wondered in comic books (though, I personally have never really read one) why villains only go to cities where there are heroes. You wouldn't catch the Joker in some small town in Montana or Kansas, would you? Why always go some place, where there is always somebody wearing a mask or cape waiting to kick your ass. Make the Hero come to you (isn't that their job?)
Anyway, like Sly or Visionary, or somebody said: 'Where are you going to go with this?'
I'm sure Christopher Nolan knows, and like I said before he'll put "a smile on that face!" He-ha-ha!
Looks good though...Sly the novels (Manuscripts) are getting better, send me a signed copy when you are finished.
"HALF!" Truly Badass...
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T.Clark
That's assuming rachel lives in the movie...
4 years agoby @insertusernamehereFlag
Flrep07
hey, they could add a love interest in the movie to make the whole Rachel Dawes thing more complicated. Maybe add Catwoman into the third movie. I dont know, im just throwing some ideas out in the open...
4 years agoby @flrep07Flag
slysnide
I agree with Visionary. There aren't many directions that this series can go from here without losing that crime drama feel it's got, or at least w/out losing that originality it has. Refer to my last comment to see what I mean.
4 years agoby @slysnideFlag
montaghem
gerattttttttttttttttt
4 years agoby @montaghemFlag
T.Clark
After two bat-films, there's little story to tell. That's what happened w/ the last series, that's what's happening w/ this one.
4 years agoby @insertusernamehereFlag
Flrep07
i dont think they should add the riddler in the next movie cuz then they'll be doing what the other movies did, having the riddler (jim carrey) and two-face (lee jones) team up and take on batman and robin
4 years agoby @flrep07Flag
T.Clark
Thank u for that intelligent peice of info, cell
4 years agoby @insertusernamehereFlag
CelluloidDreams
Two-Face is a fictional character that appears in comic books published by DC Comics. The character first appeared in Detective Comics #66 (August 1942), and was created by Bob Kane and Bill Finger. Two-Face was once Harvey Dent, District Attorney of Gotham City and close ally of Batman. After a criminal disfigured half of his face with acid, Dent became the insane crime boss Two-Face who would choose to do either good or evil depending upon the results of flipping a coin-a device which was taken from the 1932 version of Scarface. Co-creator Bob Kane was inspired by a movie poster advertising the Spencer Tracy film Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde and conceived the idea of a villain with a dual personality
4 years agoby @2movieguysFlag
slysnide
True enough. There aren't many other directions this series can go w/out making it as 'progressless' as "Forever"(95) & "Robin" (97), in that nothing in the previous 2 films continued on into the 3rd & 4th. (And yes, I know that 'progressless' isn't a real word, but it gets the point across). And thanks for all the compliments! I can't help ranting on forever on a subject and then going off on semi-unrelated tangents to get a point (or opinion) across.
I do agree with "THEJOKER's" opinion to bring back in the Riddler and play him like he was in the series and the comics, rather than UN-believable like he was in "Forever." It'd be another significant face-lift for a former villain. Then again, the same can be said for Penguin, who would also be interesting to see as the crimelord he is, rather than a freak of nature out for illogical revenge. But as I said before, I did love Burton's vision of Penguin, but would also like to see the REAL guy in this 'darker' franchise that former and original Batman actor Adam West said he wasn't crazy about on Thursday. Because Penguin wouldn't be that 'vengeful freak' so to speak (not that I have anything against genetic deformalities; i've got lots, but just aren't that visible). Instead, he'd be the genius crime-lord with all the connections and techy like weapons, such as his famous umbrella which was used as a machine gun and private helicopter in "Returns." But such things would be interesting to see conveyed in this dark series, especially with all the connections Penguin had with other villains in the comics and live action series. That in itself could introduce an array of possible subplots and/or main storylines, and therefore avoid Robin altogether, but may possibly introduce him in the end of the movie to kinda usher in the age we're more familiar with, and that'd be a decent closure to this series, but not necessarily one I'd want to see as the focal point of the 3rd film.
As for Riddler, he was more of a criminal who liked to toy around with his enemies (ie: Batman and the citizens). Except he'd use the riddles and persona to just toy with them and undermine his own seriousness as a REAL threat to make his line of work go easier for him, and have less crap to deal with along the way cuz people were too creeped out by his persona and riddles to mess with him that often. And therefore he wasn't out to possess the thoughts and desires of everyone the world over like was depicted in "Forever" (which also didn't explain how he came to build that monstosity of a HQ for his mind control device I might add).
And again with Two-Face, not chronologically following his origins in "Forever," (let alone chronicling them at all), really hurt the film even more. I'd make the leap to say that Two-Face was always a more popular villain, so do him justice! Why only have him in one or 2 scenes early on in the prequel films if they're not even gonna endorse the guy as a legitimate villain rather than a 'SURPRISE!!!!' villain like Venom in SM3, which didn't work out all that well, and just seemed like a threequel additive to make the movie seem bigger. But to do that to a popular main stream villain that's been around since the beginning??? I mean I know people don't always like origin stories, but COME ON!!! This character deserves it, as well as needs it. And yes, I know the original plan for the original franchise was to carry on Billy Dee Williams as Two-Face in Burton's Batman 3 (which never happened; job went to Schumaker who wanted TLJ instead), and since that's true, then they should've kept the character in the development stages during those films, rather than have him disappear until the 3rd act. That really killed it for me. Cuz it wasn't till the last second that Burton stepped out of the director's/writer's chair for "Forever," so he should've written Dent into "Returns," but didn't. So this all is just reinforcement as to why it was a good idea that they should go ahead with this guy (and possibly Riddler/Penguin) as the villain, rather than stick to Goyer's policy of NOT reintroducing villains that had already been used (and that policy applied since had Nolan not agreed to return, then you can bet with the box office revenue of "Begins" that there was gonna be a sequel, but it wouldn't be as good/dark without Nolan and Goyer on the same team; no offense to other possible directors)
Now I've gone off on a tangent again, I've got work at 5:00pm, and it's already 21 minutes into the several hour Sears Point NASCAR race that I haven't time to finish, so I'll continue this discussion later. And once again, thanks for all the compliments!
P.S.
I've actually written 22 pages of a story I'm working on--seriously.
4 years agoby @slysnideFlag
T.Clark
As for a third batman film, I don't know what else they can do BESIDES bring robin in. I mean, they've done the origin story and introduced 2 villains never seen on the big screen w/ ras al ghul and scarecrow in the first, and now with the second, they've introduced heath ledger's joker. I really don't know how they can follow that up in the third w/o bringing in robin. I know that 2-face is planned for the third, but unless they tell a big story like no man's land or somethin(which i don't think would work in this series), Robin is pretty much they're last option story wise with the direction they're going.
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T.Clark
If you had separated that comment into a comment for each paragraph, u could have gotten ur rank up, slysnide lol
4 years agoby @insertusernamehereFlag
artkid04
I think they should rework the character of Robin in this franchise, I mean don't have him be a hero just have him be like a mirror image to Bruce, as a sub plot could be about Bruce feeling guilt for Drake so he tries to help him, I just think if they have robin as just a kid it could work
4 years agoby @artkid04Flag
The Dark Knight
Nice work slysnide.
4 years agoby @thedarkknight23Flag
JT's Movie Page
Touche, ZanyZap. And Sly, you should just write a goddamn manuscript and send it in. Jesus Christ!!!
Just kidding, you made many (and I do mean many) good points.
4 years agoby @johnjohnson7777Flag
Brian
slysnide. You went off. And you're totally correct.
4 years agoby @brianFlag
ZanyZap
I'm trying not to be a pretentious jerk John, but you really shouldn't put 'an' before a word that starts with 'p' - Maybe you can take grammar 101 across from my spelling 101. Anyway, I just wanted to say I liked Slys novel. It made a lot of 'cence' (oops!)...
just kidding
'When the chips are down, these civilized people will eat each other. You'll see. I'll show you.'
4 years agoby @zanyzapFlag
deeman138
Nice novel there slysnide. I think they should introduce robin ONLY if they run out of ideas.
4 years agoby @deeman138Flag
-comrade-
you should write another novel.
ANyway, Robin can be done correctly, but I really don't want to see him in this or the next movie.
4 years agoby @taberjohnson18Flag
slysnide
Christopher Nolan himself said that these films were like the origin stories for the characters. Such as in "Begins" you were introduced to all the main players, which is why Scarecrow had to be in it. He was the only villain that didn't have to be over the top and comic booky in the first film, so he served it well.
As for Joker, he had a totally different look and personality in the first 2 comics the character premiered in, hence why Nolan returned to do a sequel in the first place, cuz he wanted to translate the old Joker on film that the comics forgot about back in 1940. If that hadn't happened, then there'd be no "Dark Knight" at all.
Two-Face was introduced cuz being a district attorney, there was no logical reason for him to become a criminal just cuz his face was scarred. Hence why he is to be portrayed as a district attorney who had incredible patience, but was also extremely frustrated with what he was doing, cuz before Batman's arrival, the criminals always circulated through the cycle of the justice system, (via Arkham's Crane & crimelord Falcone) and he always returned to bust the same ones over and over without really benefiting personally, nor would the city benefit cuz this cycle was allowed to continue. So after Falcone & Crane were done away with in "Begins," Harvey had the chance to take a breather, but when Joker made his appearance, and started giving power back to the mob by holding their cash ransom, the cycle started up again, but in a different fashion, which would frustrate Harvey even more, so that when he finally got scarred for probably just assisting Batman in cleaning up crime, he just finally snapped, realizing that he would never benefit at all, and after all his hard work and time devoted to his cause, he got scarred, and bested by Maroni & Joker, and therefore resolved to embark on a revenge trip against these guys to get more DIRECT RESULTS rather than recycling the bad guys through the justice system again and again. Hence the character of Two-Face that Nolan talked of for "Knight." He wasn't a crazed criminal, but a guy who was extremely fed-up with his life's work having been all for naught, and just got profiled as being criminalistic in his illegal actions against the bad guys, so instead of sympathy or any possibility of being acquitted, he got even more ticked off, since Batman fights crime illegally too, but isn't apprehended by the law, nor are many attempts made at doing it anymore, but when he does it, he gets screwed cuz his identity is known, so one thing leads to another, and he eventually figures "f*ck it" and becomes a full blown criminal. So basically, Two-Face was in need of a face lift in this new franchise as well.
But given the short time frame in which the films take place, then the character may never get to the 'full blown criminal' part. Cuz as I've said before, as being the origin stories, there isn't a given need to kill off the bad guys in the same film they're introduced in, or to develop the charatcer fully, let alone having them killed off in any installment at all. Hence how Crane only became Scarecrow at the end of "Begins" which allows that character's origin to be told, and filters him into the rest of the comics. Plus, being the second act of a presumed trilogy (and even if it isn't), then Joker probably wouldn't be killed off, especially if the film is to encompass a darker theme that makes it feel like a full blown crime drama that just happens to feature comic book characters.
This therefore also leads into the Penguin, since while Tim Burton's version was amazing, and beautifully pulled off by Danny DeVito, the character still was way far off from his comic book origins, in which he was nothing more than a crimelord that had techy weapons, and lots of connections. So he would be the most realistic villain that could be introduced in the series, but I doubt he will, otherwise, there'd be more talk about it. Since rumors had Phillip Seymour Hoffman (Capote) playing the role for Batman 3, but given that there is no known deal for Batman 3, then this could be nothing more than a rumor.
And as for Robin, Nolan said in a doc*mentary for "Begins" that Robin is "asleep in a crib somewhere" at the time that this franchise takes place. Goyer agrees whole heartedly. Plus, Nolan & Goyer were way more passionate about Batman than the side characters to waste time on them. Not that he hates them, but he just likes working with these characters more. Plus, if you team Batman with Robin, then you rob Batman of his independence as a superhero since he'd always have Robin at his side. Cuz if he was in it, then Robin would "Rob" Batman of his glory.
4 years agoby @slysnideFlag
dbatessrt8
Do NOT BRING IN ROBIN! THAT WOULD KILL EVERYTHING! ROBIN IS GAY! ALWAYS HAS BEEN!
4 years agoby @dbatessrt8Flag
DuDisNow
I hope they don't actually show off Two-Face in this film. They should save the suspense for the third one.
4 years agoby @dudisnowFlag
BlizZzario, Bizniches
As long as they can match Christian Bales skill, then I'm all for Robin, I also think Christopher Nolan knows what he is doing, so I trust his judgment, but if had something to do with Katie Holms being in the movie then he lose points, with me, but they got ride of her or she quit a popular high grossing movie for a bullsh*t movie, whatever, but ether way its going to be a good movie, and I hope Christian Bale sticks with the Batman franchise and Terminator franchise concurrently and successfully, with as many sequels as possible.
S. BlizZzard
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JT's Movie Page
I'm not trying to be an pretentious jerk, ZanyZap, but it's since and cents, not sense and cense. Anyway, I don't care if Christopher Nolan puts Robin in the films or not, I just hope he does it if he WANTS to do it.
It is painfully obvious that Sam Raimi did not want to do Venom in Spider-Man 3. Due to fans and the producers bitching that Venom needed to be in the film, however, we got a terrible interpretation of the character because a director did not want to put him in the film in the first place. Until Christopher Nolan says he wants Robin in the film then everybody just needs to drop it.
Lastly, and this is just my personal opinion, Robin is a character that works better in comics and not so well on film (unless it's the animated series, of course).
4 years agoby @johnjohnson7777Flag
JT's Movie Page
I think I found a site about three years ago (Superheroflix, I think) that posted that Christian Bale was signed for three, but now I've looked up some of the interviews that are posted here I know that he is not. It must have been one of the many rumors that came out of the success of Batman Begins. Either way, thanks for the information killahmovie.
and Andrew, I know that Aaron Eckhart confirmed Two-Face on MTV and certain interviews have confirmed it as well. All I'm saying is that there are people who wouldn't believe it until they see real footage (yes, these people won't even believe in the freeze-frame of the trailer). Everyday The Dark Knight would be brought up in conversation when I was at Henderson, I would have at least ten people ask me if Two-Face was in the film. I'm finally glad to post this video on my movie page on MySpace so that they can finally see this clip and stop asking me whether or not he is in it.
4 years agoby @johnjohnson7777Flag
ZanyZap
Sense every one is throwing in 'two cense', I think I'll throw in nickel. A couple of years ago, when they announce the Joker would be the villain in the Dark Knight, there was a lot of moaning and groaning, as when the Heathe man was announce to play him. It didn't take long for people to realize, 'Damn! Chris [and Heathe] can pull this off!' I think if Chris Nolan decides to put Robin in he's going to make it his own and in the end it's going to be really good. We might say now, ehh...that would be terrible, but what ever Chris decides is probably going to turn out for the best. Christopher Nolan's going 'TO PUT A SMILE ON THAT FACE OF YOURS...!he ha ha...!'
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RingWraither
This is just BAD advertisement..just like what they did with Stark in The Incredible Hulk. It ruined it for alot of people because it kept airing on tv for a whole week! They should be ashamed! F*cking bitches!
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killahmovie24
and by this one i mean batman begins
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T.Clark
2 face was confirmed to be in the movie neways, trailer or no trailer
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killahmovie24
http://movies.about.com/od/batman/a/batmancn060805.htm
thats an interviwe with nolan where at the end like i posted he says he hadnt ruled it out but that they wanted to see how ppl liked this one
4 years agoby @killahmovie24Flag