James Vanderbilt to Pen Spider-Man 5 and Spider-Man 6!
Vanderbilt wrote the first draft of Spider-Man 4 but that didn't stop director Sam Raimi from bringing in David Lindsay-Abaire to rewrite him.
Currently, rewriting the Spider-Man 4 script is Gary Ross. Sony wants to have it production in early 2010 with a release slated for May 2011.
Even though Raimi brought in another writer, executives at Columbia Pictures and Marvel Studios like what Vanderbilt has brought to the table. Spider-Man 5 and Spider-Man 6 have a connected storyline, so it make sense to have one person write the scripts (at least initially).
Apparently, that was the plan when Vanderbilt came on to write Spider-Man 4, but the idea of shooting a fourth and fifth film back to back with the original cast was eventually jettisoned.
It isn't currently clear whether Raimi, Tobey Maguire and Kirsten Dunst will be back after Spider-Man 4. Should they not return, "Vanderbilt's script would be the blueprint for a franchise reboot."
Some are wondering why Vanderbilt would be doing any work on Spider-Man 5 and Spider-Man 6 when it isn't clear who is even going to be in the movies. It seems that Sony wants to release Spider-Man films more often. There was a two year lapse from Spider-Man to Spider-Man 2. And it took three years for Spider-Man 3 to come out.
When Spider-Man 4 debuts, four years will have passed.
Spider-man 4 is in development .
Spider-Man was released May 3rd, 2002 and stars Tobey Maguire, Willem Dafoe, Kirsten Dunst, James Franco, Cliff Robertson, Rosemary Harris, J.K. Simmons, Joe Manganiello. The film is directed by Sam Raimi.
Spider-Man 2 was released June 30th, 2004 and stars Tobey Maguire, Kirsten Dunst, James Franco, Alfred Molina, Rosemary Harris, J.K. Simmons, Donna Murphy, Daniel Gillies. The film is directed by Sam Raimi.
Spider-Man 3 was released May 4th, 2007 and stars Tobey Maguire, Kirsten Dunst, James Franco, Thomas Haden Church, Topher Grace, Bryce Dallas Howard, Rosemary Harris, J.K. Simmons. The film is directed by Sam Raimi.
Sources: Variety
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CBF
Hell yeah
2 years agoby @comicbookfanFlag
Chad Vital
I saw this picture earlier when I was searching for other ones. This version looks way different as well. They could at least attempted to use the same color scheme in his outfit. And I'm not digging him being bald haha
2 years agoby @chad-vitalFlag
CBF
Cool picture but that mask is very cinema-unfriendly lol. I really don't think you can have that in a movie and be taken serious. I'd have to say that the best incantation of Electro from the comics has GOT to be the Ultimate version, despite how much I hate that line of books. Here's a tiny JPEG:
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/spiderman/images/thumb/5/5c/Ultimateelectro.jpg/180px-Ultimateelectro.jpg
2 years agoby @comicbookfanFlag
Drewski37
ya sam raimi was good doing the first 2 spiderman movies, but he should should stick to something he's better at horror movies!
2 years agoby @drewski37Flag
Chad Vital
I also think if they use Electro as a main villian, you might as well put The Shocker in the same film maybe like his partner in crime have The Shocker be Electro's protege (even though they have different talents but are kinda similiar in a way).
2 years agoby @chad-vitalFlag
Chad Vital
But seriously though, imagine Electro in a suit that's green almost like Green Goblin's and a helmet like his but it has the that lightning star design incorperated into it like a newage version of the outfit. I mean they can easily redesign it to be more modern. I haven't found many pics of him in any updated outfits but I did like this picture thus far: http://i29.tinypic.com/30lebnl.jpg
2 years agoby @chad-vitalFlag
Chad Vital
It sucks they used Electro's colors for Green Goblin otherwise a suit similiar to his would have been alright. Why did they make GG's mask part of his helmet yellow? I thought GG was Green and Purple... lol the decisions some people make are so "wtf" haha.
2 years agoby @chad-vitalFlag
Chad Vital
I'm iffy about that pic CBF lol. He looks completely different and kinda creepy. That person in that picture looks like a blue Marilyn Manson with Poison Ivy's eye mask from Batman & Robin lol.
2 years agoby @chad-vitalFlag
-comrade-
I think "mess" is a good word. But sometimes a mess can be entertaining.
2 years agoby @taberjohnson18Flag
-comrade-
Main villains have to be bad guys for a reason, even if the reason is that they hate Spider-Man.
2 years agoby @taberjohnson18Flag
CBF
I agree that he would make a cool side villain Chad. My favorite Electro depiction is the one from "Spider-Man: The New Animated Series" which aired on MTV and had Electro clad in no outfit, but instead an electric encasing to his skin which was all blue and looked totally badass. [ http://www.jdix.net/Spidey/images/electro2.jpg ] I would want an incantation of that version if he were to enter the film series. That yellow lightning bolt costume is retro! LOL
2 years agoby @comicbookfanFlag
Chad Vital
Thanks for the info CBF I didn't know most of that. I think Electro would make a great side villian (he doesn't even have to wear that goofy costume). I picture MY version of him looking almost identical to how Sam Worthington looked in Terminator Salvation. But he just has electrical powers.
2 years agoby @chad-vitalFlag
Vanboy
When Topher Grace got taken over by the black goo, they should not have had his face pop out, for him to make lame, "ha, ha, I'm beating you up now", comments. It just looked stupid and silly. All I saw when that happened was his dorky character from "That Seventies Show".
The original concept for the blood blob at the end of the the first Blade movie, was going to show Stephen Dorff's Deacon Frost character's face emerging out from the blood blob to make sarcastic one liners and do basically what Topher Grace did in Spidey #3. It looked stupid and lame. I wish that they would have just kept the black alien suit covering Topher Grace's face and make the voice sound like Christian Bale's did in The Dark Knight, only more demonic.
2 years agoby @vanboyFlag
Vanboy
Sam Raimi already said in an interview, that Spidey #3 was his "Batman Forever", that he would make sure he did not make a "Batman and Robin". Don't worry guys, Sam will make the next one kick-ass!
2 years agoby @vanboyFlag
knobie09
bring james cameron to do the next two. he was the one who initially started the whole "let's-make-a-big-budget-spiderman-franchise" thing in the first place. he could then make arrangements to film it at M.G.M. studios where it was originally intended to be filmed.
2 years agoby @knobie09Flag
CBF
Chad_Vital you make great points and, frankly, I agree with them on a personal level. However while we may agree on thinking that Sam Raimi should not be involved in the screenplay/draft process (for lack of the elusive word that MW susp*ciously doesn't allow anymore), the sad truth is that he has had his hand in them from day one.
"Spider-Man" The Movie's rights were purchased from the James Cameron material by Sony and different directors were shopped around (including David Fincher - who, if had gotten the job, would have successfully integrated the comics' storyline with the film by proposing the "Death of Gwen Stacy" arc for the movie), as well as different screenwriters. David Koepp was the first one to rewrite James Cameron's original treatment, but took out the villains Electro and Sandman and replaced them with Green Goblin and Doc Ock. Koepp also got the final sole credit for the SCRIPT but in fact, Raimi had brought in another writer for another draft (and told him to take out Doc Ock) as well as Laura Ziskin having her husband Alvin Sargent attempt a rewrite.
"Spider-Man 2" saw Raimi changing the original idea of a sequel called "The Amazing Spider-Man" featuring villains Doc Ock, Lizard, and Black Cat by picking and choosing between drafts which came from four writers. The fifth writer, Sargent, helped Raimi choose and eliminate all villains but Doc Ock, who Raimi changed a lot of his backstory, and decided that the film would be comparable to "Superman II" by Parker losing his powers and focusing on the hero's struggle.
And of course we all know the dilemma of Raimi messing with the latest flick which is "Spider-Man 3," with Ivan Raimi pitching the treatment to Alvin Sargent rewriting it, to Raimi and Tobey including Sandman as a favorite, and Sam wanting Vulture as the third villain until it was cut because of Avi Arad who forced them to bring in Venom. Also by Sam adding Gwen Stacy, Alvin Sargent had told him that the SCRIPT was "so confusing" that he wanted to fork it out into two movies but we ended up with what is the third film all meshed into one.
So, you see, Raimi has had the creative control over all of the films in the series so far. And he had stated early on when "Spider-Man 4" was still a rumor that he would relinquish creative control of the screenwriting, which I was desperately hopeful for. He had only said that he wanted to bring in The Lizard if he returned to direct. Well, obviously this never came true as he is still messing with story, which leads me to believe that as long as he keeps doing this we will get a huge mess of Spidey's original story the way it was meant to be told.
Sorry for the history lesson. LOL. Its just the way I see things.
2 years agoby @comicbookfanFlag
Chad Vital
Dang it didn't look that big when I wrote it haha. It's worth the read though :)
2 years agoby @chad-vitalFlag
Chad Vital
I'm sure Sam won't be involved after the 4th film CBF, I just have this feeling he's done with Spiderman after 4. Why does Sam have a say in the s anyway, he's just the director lol. Let the writers do the writing and the real people in charge make the decisions. If multiple studios think Vanderbilt's drafts are better then obviously something good is there waiting to be shot on screen. Sam is just one person. I don't trust his decision making I really don't. He's a decent director but he should have no say in the story part of Spiderman. Instead of being biased like he's being, he needs to let the story unfold like it does in the comics. Not picking his lame ass favorite villians to star in the film. If you really think about it, Doc Ock was the only cool villian in the films. The only reason why anyone liked Green Goblin was because of William Dafoe. If GG would have been anybody else, it would have been lame haha. The suit was kinda corny too but oh well. Guess you can't have an actual goblin eh? Spiderman is supposed to be unrealistic lol. I mean The Lizard and Scorpion? Cool bad guys but way unrealistic. So why couldn't they have an actual Green Goblin? (Who would have been more accurate to the comics and please the fans).
Back to Raimi's decision making, his personal tastes ARE terrible, and that's my point, everyone disagrees not everyone will argee that's how the world is etc etc. But to try and put YOUR favorite villians on screen just because you like them the most when the fans are the ones who are paying your salaries, you'd think they would go with fan favorites and not Sam's. Honestly now, Green Goblin, The Vulture (Sam's favorite villian *ugh*), Sandman, and Venom was only added because of somebody else telling him because they were trying to listen to the what the fans want so they put him in there half assed (you can tell they really didn't care) and called it good. More people remember the sh*t they didn't like more than the things they actually did like in that film. Is that how you want to be remembered? I wouldn't. I would be busting my ass to make people happy, to do Spiderman justice. But that's only me. Sam needs to stop being so selfish and doing it his way and listen to the fans since they are the most important part of the whole process. Please the fans, you have a hit. It's that simple. The Dark Knight did just that. That's why that movie is so successful and well spoken of. If you abide by that simple rule, fans/source material first, you'll win. Not listening to fans and doing whatever you want will tank the film's success. They will make bank the opening weekend but when the fans get online and review the movie to others and it has huge flaws then the studio will lose money and people will lose interest since people do listen to word of mouth opinions suprisingly. If your buddy says it's awesome you're most likely going to go see it ya know lol.
Btw Zodiac had good actors but the movie was thee longest, most boring movie I have ever watched lol. Nothing ever ever happened. After all the time watching this long long movie, nothing happens. I was like wow what a waste of time. And I LOVE long movies so that's saying something. For example, I love the extended versions of Lord of the Rings because the story is good and keeps you caring about things so I want more of it. Not a movie that's not going anywhere for 3 hours haha.
Oh darkknight I like your list of things you would change etc. on page 1 of the comments.
2 years agoby @chad-vitalFlag
DarkKnight89
All i gotta say is this all one big mess for both sides(raimi vs sony) here, enough said.
2 years agoby @darkknight89Flag
CBF
Good point VIS though actually all the re-writes from Abaire and Ross are Raimi's doing. He wanted it toned down from Vanderbilt's version. I guess he didn't agree with some ideas of his that were in the first draft. So then you see my point of Raimi vs. Vanderbilt -- what's Sam gonna do? Rewrite ALL of the next 3 film drafts because Vanderbilt is writing them?
I agree with the take on Gwen having been in the first film and being thrown off the bridge. MJ should have been introduced in the second film.
2 years agoby @comicbookfanFlag
T.Clark
They screwed Gwen over. She should have been introduced early on so when she does die, it actually means something. I don't know what they'll do with her now...probably keep her around and kill her in the sixth movie.
Ross and Vanderbilt have their hands full. I think they learned from their mistakes and are taking the story more seriously, though...hence all the re-writes.
2 years agoby @insertusernamehereFlag
-comrade-
MJ doesn't die dadarkknight--Gwen Stacy was created to die, that's the whole point of the character.
I'm not saying what could have been done to improve the third film as it stands, I'm saying they should have done it completely differently, as thought they planned for a fourth one.
2 years agoby @taberjohnson18Flag
CBF
Wow, it really is incredible to read everybody's wants and desires for the franchise, and then read "take this out," "take that out," when it's completely part of Spidey's story, so Vanderbilt would never take stuff like this out. Case in point: the MJ romance. The story of Spider-Man is really the story of Parker. So all you guys wanting more action, less lovey-dovey and character-driven story, you'll never get it. It's almost like you guys have never picked up the books before.
Celluloid: Did you really just ask who the hell is Vanderbilt? Wow. Well... James Vanderbilt wrote "Zodiac" which by the way was a damn good draft, and in early 2007, when David Koepp ("Spider-Man" 1) couldn't commit, pitched the "Spider-Man 4" and "5" story arc concept to Columbia Pictures in a two-part draft treatment. Which the studio picked up, then had Vanderbilt write a first draft of "4" (which took a few months), and gave to Sam Raimi. Which of course, Raimi has since hired two different writers to revise his draft, because Raimi doesn't agree with some ideas of Vandebilt's. (Which if he's writing the next two films then, why would you take out some ideas, if all three films will be connected, Raimi, you dumbass?)
Needless to say, James Vanderbilt has been attached to "Spider-Man 4" since before "Spider-Man 3" even came out. If one was following "4"s developments, he would be known to them.
2 years agoby @comicbookfanFlag
J.A.Ottley.Writer / Director
nah do that between movies 5 & 6 Vis...
Reason is because 5 & 6 are going to be one giant movie seperated into 2 parts, it actually makes perfect sense, to introduce them then, give more for the build up.
like 5 shows the sinister 5 (i swear octopus is one but he is dead) so i guess they'll be sinister 5, and in the end of Spiderman 5 as like a post credits they join forces
2 years agoby @chronicFlag
peanuts and other poisons
I am so out of touch with the comic's.Its been so long since I've read them lol.I can't remember who the sinister six is.
Sadly,even with how childish he's acting,i agree with "my smile".They should do something with Spider-Man 3.I was very disappointed with it.
2 years agoby @vendetta1Flag
Newkill3000
vis, shut the f*ck up, you c*nt.
2 years agoby @newkill200Flag
T.Clark
"why dont they just go over the top and bring in The Sinister Six"
If they're gonna do that, at least wait for the sixth movie...duh.
2 years agoby @insertusernamehereFlag
Newkill3000
Damn,lol, another 2 parter. I thought you'd be too busy f*cking your mother for taking your smile away. I guess that supposed to be a picture of you in the woods after molesting an eight year old. Nice mask. I bet he put a smile on that face, but if that didn't work you could always try your luck at McDonalds, i'm sure they'll put one on, you low-life f*ggot. Nough said.
2 years agoby @newkill200Flag
my smile was taken long ago.
wow newkill.make like a bitch and go f*ck you mother.lol thats funny.finally new material.although it is still just as you.concidering you must do the samething every night.again.youre not worth my time.
2 years agoby @forgottenoneFlag
my smile was taken long ago.
you know what newkill.get a life,improve the one you have or take the pathetic one i know you are living.youre not worth my time.and i dont explain a god damn thing to a person like you.all i can say is.if you want to insult people.get better material and be willing to back it up.because i can tell you right now.someone is going to beat the sh*t out of you.and i will laugh when that happens.
2 years agoby @forgottenoneFlag