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The Rights to The Terminator Franchise Are Up for Sale Again

Source:  The Los Angeles Times
The Los Angeles Times reports that the rights to the Terminator franchise are again up for sale.

Derek Anderson and Victor Kubicek, who nabbed the science-fiction franchise in 2007 for $25 million and produced this year's Terminator Salvation, are apparently looking to sell the rights "partially or outright as several companies owned by the duo work their way through bankruptcy."

Anderson and Kubicek own Halcyon Holding Group. They recently hired the financial advisory firm FTI Capital Advisors, if the bankruptcy court approves, to "evaluate strategic alternatives," they said in a statement. Any deal for the rights would have to have an investment in, or outright sale, of said rights.

The Terminator came out in 1984 but the rights to the franchise have been sold more than any other major Hollywood film series. When the film was released, Hemdale Film Corp. (the film's production company), owned a 50% interest in the property. Director James Cameron sold the other half of the rights to producing partner and future wife Gale Anne Hurd for $1.

Carolco Pictures, which was owned by producers Mario Kassar and Andrew Vajna, then picked up Hemdale's stake in 1990 for $10 million. They subsequently released Terminator 2: Judgement Day the next year. In 1997, after Carolco filed for bankruptcy, they started a new venture, C2 Pictures. C2 then bought the rights "for $8 million and the remaining 50% from Hurd for $8 million."

Then in 2007, Kassar and Vajna sold off their rights to newbie producers Anderson and Kubicek. Since then there have been filings, more filings and more time spent in courts.

So the big question now is will we see Terminator 5? Terminator Salvation director McG and star Christian Bale had been high on creating more stories for the franchise, but with the rights changing hands yet again this could make things tougher for that to happen. Also, it seems that the movie was something of a box office disappointment for it's studio Warner Bros.


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October 7th, 2009 1:18am
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October 6th, 2009 3:28pm
no shit,CBF cause stalkers love to follow people,mostly on Facebook
and MySpace.
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October 5th, 2009 5:20pm
wait what? Facebook users murdered???
:(

and thanks for the response Fallen, though I guess we'll see about Bale's attitude...
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October 4th, 2009 6:47am
Ah, man, Chad, all this time I thought you liked me chatting.
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October 3rd, 2009 12:43pm
of course,never watched the news,todd but sometimes the news dont tell u specific information.
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October 3rd, 2009 8:56am
Was that on the news? Raven.
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October 3rd, 2009 8:14am
oh,ur guys are taliking about the spammers around here!{ignor last comment}.Yeah,if u guys dint know,there everywhere right now,57 friends have been murdered on Facebook and MySpace,someone was stealing their private information so they can find out where they live and u know,kill them.U guys better delete ur Facebook or Myspace accounts,thank god i dont have one.
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October 3rd, 2009 8:10am
WTF Chad!?!? D8
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October 2nd, 2009 4:07pm
Lol. I was winging it.
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October 1st, 2009 9:29pm
"cock accusers"? lol
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October 1st, 2009 6:19pm
chill Vanboy,jeez racist this and that, isn this ever gonna stop for a while?BTW,isnt The Terminator Franchise gonna be brought by
Sony Pictures? :3
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October 1st, 2009 1:43pm
Thank you for understanding Fallen. You're okay in my book!
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October 1st, 2009 1:23pm
Thank you Vanboy. And I am not calling you a racist. And I hate when people call people a racist over the internet when they don't even fucking know them. But whatever. And yeah, movieweb needs to kick out some spammers and "cock accusers" on this site.
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October 1st, 2009 10:34am
Fallen, I didn't say I was the hero. I simply suggested that Aficionado is the kind of person who leads the mob to lynch the hero, in a story of some kind.

And I do not think someone "deserves some respect" when the accuse me of being a racist, just because they think I'm just an annoying prick. Just because I've debated obvious racial issues that are going on in America. This is the very reason that people don't talk about that. Because whenever someone dares to stand up and challenge the issues and not be apprehensive, they get labeled as racist unjustly.

I like every person. Without diversity, this world would be very boring. I have simply pointed out negative behaviors, on all fronts. I never said that the white man was perfect. But people like Comrade, who I have been debating the issues with, can't pretend that racism doesn't exist in the Black community as well. That's all I have been trying to get through to him. He would not admit that it did. He just kept pointing out the bad things that the white man has done, and then would stand on this soap box as some representative of a lone community of persecution.

Am I not a racist for trying to stand up and defend my community. I know that there are white supremacists, but there are also black supremacists. We need to stop the violence against each other and get along, but the likes of people like Comrade and Aficionado would rather pull the racist card, than actually fess up to their own prejudices.

And you're right about the last comments being immature. I was pissed off at Aficionado's racist comment, when he doesn't even know me and I just insulted him, like he insulted me.

I'm going to tell you this story, that I swear if it is not true, may God strike me down right now. I feel I have to say that because if I didn't, Aficionado or Comrade might just dismiss it.
Just two or three weeks ago, I was coming home from work, when I saw an older white Oldsmobile on the side of the road near the interstate, on the overpass. There was a black lady in the front passenger seat and a little boy in the back. I was in a hurry to get home, to take care of something important. I drove about a mile, when I saw a black man sweating and carrying a container of gas. It was very sunny and hot out. Even though I was in a hurry, I felt compelled to pull over and I waited for the guy to reach me. I asked him if he was going to the car I saw earlier, and he said yes. I gladly offered him the ride and he accepted it. I drove him to his car and he shook my hand and thanked me. I told him that we had to help each other and I felt good for having done it. I have helped Black people more than I can remember. I have helped with changing tires and giving jump starts. I have also helped Hispanic people and others in the same way. I am probably the biggest boy scout I know in this aspect. People in the world never see these acts. All they ever see is the stigma, that the likes of Comrade and Aficionado try to reinforce. I am not a racist, but I am also not a sheep who cowers in fear of the racist card. And I think that's what bothers Comrade. The fact that I won't be pigeon holed or accept a label.

If I was a racist like Comrade and Aficionado try to label me as, I would just say screw the black people and just help the white ones. I never do that. I help everyone.

But you are also right by stating that Movieweb is a place to discuss movies, so let's all respect each other and stop labeling each other racists and cock suckers, when we really don't know that we all at one point might have given the other a lift with a gas can at some point.

It seems that this world is not, and may never be ready to discuss race issues openly, without blasting the other. For that, I am man enough to admit guilt for doing it as much as Comrade did.

Now let's end this racist talk and just talk about what we all love mutually......movies.
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September 30th, 2009 11:42pm
I like how Newkill and Delgen aren't even here and there is cock talk lol.
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September 30th, 2009 1:12pm
At least McG realizes part 4 wasn't that great. Let's see if he can redeem himself.
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September 30th, 2009 12:04pm
Vanboy, #1, your not the hero (no one is). #2, Aficionado is a veteran and deserves some respect from new people like you, who go around changing the wold and thinking their right. I do it sometimes but enough is enough. It's stupid comment's like your last post that make movieweb a stupid place to be. So please man, let it go, get back on topic, and stop with the racist non racist cock sucking jokes. Its immature.
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September 30th, 2009 10:16am
cameron's T-1 and T-2. somebody tried to delete me here!!!
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September 30th, 2009 10:14am
the story(cameron's s)has been told,re-explored,has even dissected into T-3 and 4. there's not much more to tell. is there?
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September 30th, 2009 8:34am
Hey Aficionado, you must have been sucking Comrade's dick, by the sounds of that racist comment and felt obligated to return his favor of allowing you to blow him, and you decided to put me in my place. What are you an Aficionado of?...Sucking dicks that's what!

"At best, you're an annoying prick, and from what I gather, a racist." Another ignorant asshole who believes hearsay from a race bating kid and leads the lynch mob to burn the hero.

I got one thing to say to you Aficionado. When you're done swallowing, give me a reply with some credibility to it, because you're the one who just sounds like an annoying prick, to come out of nowhere and fuck with me for no reason. Go grow some pubes and jerk yourself blind, you little bastard!
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September 30th, 2009 12:13am
I'm all fine with that CBF, (a different director would have been nice but w/e) and my only real problem is Bale. He is a great actor one of my favorites but he was overplayed it so much to sound American. I mean his Rescue Dawn and American Psycho voice was fine, why can't he do that? And he has too big of an ego it might, it might get in the way of the movie.
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September 29th, 2009 10:52pm
Who is this guy and why is he saying my name? Fucking random ass dude haha. Who said I was wrong? I'm pretty sure A.Critic didn't say that, he was talking to Vanboy. But whatever lol.

Btw knobie, if you're gonna type 4 sentences, can you do it in the same post or at least delete your older posts and put them in one. Gracious.
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September 29th, 2009 8:53pm
BLESS YOU AS WELL,BHAARATH!!!!
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September 29th, 2009 8:51pm
that is... about vanboy and the "chad" being wrong. good one!
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September 29th, 2009 8:43pm
i meant "firSt one to...".
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September 29th, 2009 8:41pm
LONG LIVE ANNOYNGFILMCRITIC!!!! FIRT ONE TO SPEAK TRUE WISDOM AFTER ALL THIS FARSE!!!! THANK YOU!!! THANK YOU!!! THANK YOU!!!
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September 29th, 2009 6:56pm
Nah I read about this, McG and Bale are still developing Terminator 5 they are just letting the dudes who own Halcyon shop the rights around, to which they have "potential buyers." McG says he is going back to the tried-and-true format of the series that "works" since T4 was a little disappointing and he really wanted to impress, so he's introducing Time Travel with the TDE and John Connor is to be the main star of the next two films, not some random character like Marcus in T4. Also he has mapped the story out through to T6. Those Halcyon dudes better get on their grind.
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September 29th, 2009 5:59pm
Thank you penguin. There I agree with you. I want to see Johnathon Nolan write more stuff. His short film that Memento was based on and his co-working with Prestige and the batman franchise shows that John is a damn good writer.
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September 29th, 2009 5:55pm
Vanboy are fucking kidding me? Finchers one of the best directors out there. Aliens 3 wasn't that great but it didn't SUCK as much as you say. Go watch Fight Club or Seven or The Zodiac and referesh your brain.

And for once I agree 100% with Annoying. They should buy iyt, lock it up, and keep it there a while. A coupld of years. Let a director come to them, which shows he is interested and probably passionate, get Cameron's approval and guidance (like the Hobbit is under Jacksons Guidance) and get this baby restated and cooking. Not a reboot, but a trilogy of mass perportion. Thats my 2 cents.
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September 29th, 2009 5:44pm
We should take a break from bashing McG and how this is what he thinks the fan wants and thank Bale and Jonathon Nolan for the rewrites they came up. You gotta admit this film COULD HAVE BEEN WORSE! The two guys who wrote T3 wrote TS. There is no telling how crappy their original plans were.
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