Did you say something?

Why the fuck did you post this on two threads?

Good for you! For you saying that how you did, I am now freed to grant the respect to you, that Comrade pretentiously and obnoxiously demanded that I bestow upon you, by the mere length of existence your profile has been on this site.

Hello, I am Vanboy. Nice to meet you.

I was just digging in your side with the "Duh".

I still feel that a sequel will create an origin in our minds, that we might not have had originally, and it will erase our own imagined world and adventure, that might have involved the origin of the Space Jockey.

You know, Michael Stipe from R.E.M. said long ago, that he hated doing music videos, that he'd prefer not to, because he wanted people to "imagine" what the music looked like in their own mind's eye and interpret it that way. He felt that their music held a more diverse interest to more people, if they could see the music, how they see it, and not watch a video and say, "Oh, so that's what that song looks like".

When I listen to the song "Sailing" by Christopher Cross, I always picture myself floating on a glass smooth ocean with my wife, in a small single mast, four person sailboat, (similar to the one that Jack Sparrow arrives into Port Royale with, in Pirates of the Caribbean) and a pink/orange sunset on the horizon.

Now what image will you have in your head from this day forward, every time you hear Sailing?

Do you understand my point? I don't need to be told where the Space Jockey came from. My imagined origins are more interesting than anyone else's could ever be. But if I am told, it better be something along the lines of what I have already imagined, or Alien will have a different look to me from the point I step out of the showing of the prequel, which will set up the story for Alien. A prequel will dissolve the mystery and mythology of what I have come to know (or not know), since 1979.

I could have lived and lived more happily, without having seen Revenge of the Sith. I didn't need to see Yoda go into hiding or any of that other stuff.

I knew that there was an evil Empire and that Obi-Wan and Yoda were the only living Jedi left.

I see prequels, like everybody else on this site sees remakes, especially when the prequel is just lying to us like we're a bunch of fools, saying in effect, "This is really the beginning, didn't you know?".

No, Alien was the beginning, and it was a solid beginning. Now, that solid beginning might be undone with a false beginning Elmer's Glued onto the front of it. Ridley Scott better work the same magic he did in Alien. The only problem is, he's not the same as when he made Alien.

Stephen Spielberg said it perfectly. He said he wouldn't be able to make "Duel" (his first film) today if he had to. He was a young, hungry, determined young guy then, who was in essence trying to save the cinematic world with his work. He's had other experiences since then and has become someone other than who he was when he made "Duel". He would surely say the same if asked to do a prequel.

Did Scott go through this metamorphosis also? I would venture to say, he must have. I didn't see any of Alien or Blade Runner in Gladiator. I think Scott's style and interests may have changed. Every director has a certain look about their movies as I sure you must know.

I can see a bit of Aliens in The Abyss, but I wouldn't want to see some secret prequel to Aliens either.

The only Alien movies that exist on my plain, are Alien and Aliens. And I could have died happy, having only seen them, if those crappy sequels hadn't come along, falsely razing my expectations of more awesomeness, only to be left with a soggy, smelly bag of crap, tainting future installments. I don't need a prequel to ruin the one of two Alien movies that I hold in such high regard. But that's just my take on it.

I was just saying that there is an entire franchise built upon the first Alien movie and a prequel won't do it any harm or good. Each Alien movie, even if it's a direct sequel, somehow managed to find it's own "niche" and distance itself from the last. A prequel won't be any different. If it sucks, it won't "mess with a flawless classic" because you can still watch that classic any time you want. And if it's good, well, then it'll just be another good Alien movie, now won't it?

For the record, I didn't use "duh" in my comment and wasn't trying to "insult your intelligence." I was just pointing something out, and I'm glad you responded in such an immature way so I could expand on my original comment. Notice I didn't call you any names in my explanation?

Frenzy, if the Space Jockey "gets turned into" a predator just for story's sake, which is what you're actually suggesting, they will really be screwing up the Alien world.

It's not bad enough that the franchise has been bastardized by those shitpile AVP movies, now they want to go and try to rewrite this sci-fi history of what it was really supposed to be, when it was what it was already supposed to be in the first place.

That's just as shitty as having Qui Gon Jinn be the teacher to Obi-Wan, when we all know damn well, that Obi-Wan asks Yoda in The Empire Strikes Back, "Was I any different when you trained me?", in response to Yoda saying that Luke was to old and reckless to begin the training.

Hans Giger created the Alien. It's a variation of his drawings. And the Space Jockey is also a variation of a creature in one of his drawings. It has nothing to do with the Predator.

The only thing Predator was similar to back then, was the hunter alien in "It Came Without Warning".

Exactly like usulrah says. The Space Jockey was not meant to be a Predator.

Hell, Stan Winston made the Predator design, for the movie Predator. And the design had to be refined, just before the movie was made.

The only time Alien and Predator had anything to do with each other, was when the Alien skull could be seen hanging on the Predator trophy wall in the Predator ship, in Predator 2.

Maybe Predator fans want to try to hijack the more established legacy of Alien, by trying to recreate the lore of Predator, but the fact is, that Predator was created years later and was never intended or conceived to be a part of the Alien universe until Predator 2 came out.

That's the same as when "Jason Goes to Hell" came out, and they show Freddy's glove come out of the ground and grab Jason's mask at the end of the movie.

Alien and Predator have become conjoined twins, and they need to be surgically separated, or they will both eventually die from one smothering the other.

This thread is about Alien, not Predator.

Aficionado: "Duh, You do know there were sequels, right?" "You do know there were sequels, right?"
You obviously didn't get the point you dumbass. Everybody has been fine without your neghead shit lately.

Now if you're so miserable, that you have to try to insult someone's intelligence, go and look in the mirror and have at it. There's plenty to judge there. I meant to say what I said. If you didn't understand what I meant by messing up this classic, you're a lost cause.
But...since I'm a sympathetic person at heart and feel compelled to help the disadvantaged, let me help you understand.
Scott in messing up this classic, will be in essence, lifting the veil of mystery of the unknown, that is the Space Jockey, and that which makes Alien so intriguing. If he screws it up, it will be a stain on ALIEN!

Now here's the part where you have to focus, so stay with me! It's NOT a prequel to ALIENS, NOT to that shitty ALIEN 3, and NOT to that even shittier ALIEN RESERECTION. It will be a prequel to ALIEN. Do you get it now Mr. Footshovedintomouth?

Now go to a public bathroom in a truck stop and suck on a used urinal cake, and keep your insinuated accusations to yourself.

Hey Comrade, that moron deserves respect!? You have GOT to be freakin' kidding!!!

Can't wait. Scott has been slipping lately but the fact he's going back to sci-fi is fantastic! Blade Runner and Alien are two faves. Hey Vanboy...don't forget that this is the guy who invented the thing... I am pretty sue he knows what he's doing. Lol. Can't wait.

They should do a film about the first ship the aliens attacked in the original.

haha @ half an alien.

So if Aliens had multiple xenomorphs, Alien only had one, than that would mean that the prequel should have half an alien.
Ridley Scott made the original, which is bloody brilliant, so how could make a mess? I mean, he started it!

The space jockey was not ment to be a predator, the design for the predator changed while filming. which was years later

I was always told that the dead "Space Jockey" in the alien ship was supposed to be a Predator. It was just before the final design for the Predator came to fruition. That is to say that the story even revolves around what happened to the "Space Jockey" I think you might be jumping the gun on this Vanboy. I for one won't be too quick to dismiss or talk this one up just yet.

You do know there were sequels, right?

Thirty years. Hmm, I would say that the "Space Jockey" would already be petrified and grown into that chair, only thirty years prior.

Who will the story focus on, if he is already dead?

Scott had better bring out the big guns for this and make it awesome or I will never forgive him for messing with a flawless classic!

do it!