That's true but i hate forced twists take for example Shaymalan he just by default must make a twist ending to please his audience i think limiting yourself to please your audience is ridiculous though Shaymalan should take a page from Eli Roth and dive into a completley new genre

I reckon it was a twist endng just to statisy the auidence because every horror needs a twist ending in order to open or give the publiuc a warranty for a possible sequel if the product is successful enough

TwistedSmile has a point if the remake sucks the original is still there take for example The Fog a terrible remake but the original is still there and still rocks. I don't get the searingly intense remake hate originality has been dead for years you think Friday The 13th and all that 80's slasher stuff is original then you need to discover a little movie called HALLOWEEN

May I ask why so many are upset by this? We have known for a few years now that this was going to happen. I dont understand how this can make so many angry? I would assume that many of you will be seeing Friday The 13th tomorrow and from all that we have seen, it looks to fulfill are expectations and guess what it is a remake. I understand the originality arguement,but I do not get the intense anger over these remakes. Just think of them as new tellings of beloved movies that where so good they were made twice.

His only position on Alpha Dog was titles, he just did the opening text credits and the credits and anyother form of text that appear in the film.
Bayer had nothing to do with the pre-production or production stages of Alpha Dog, just post-production.

This is my opinion on what you've mentioned about directors and sequels, generally i reckon that people don't care about them because they've seen the original, and as long as that original film is commericial and successful enough to warrant a sequel, then nothing else matters, the sequel just has to be bigger and better, which is reasons why successful franchises tend to have bigger budget sequels.
But because people have seen and loved the originals and see them in a sought of classic film, they tend to get this genearic expectations that the sequel has to be much better than the first (which it never usually is).

I wan't sure what was happening when the car drives off by itself i'm like oh she's still dreaming, then the mother starts smiling and acting all sinister and i'm like "oh freddy possessed the mother" then the mother gets pulled through the door and i'm like "Ok WTF is the ending supposed to mean". It doesn't help that Freddy's Revenge clarified fuck all either lol but it is a nice little campy movie...with soooo many homoerotic tendancies. The actress who played the mother was horrible aswell but John Saxon rocks

There are actually like 3 different endings, there was a coll one where you see Freddy driving the car and it drives off fading to black.

But i agree lol you can tell when the mum gets dragged through the window in the end you can clearly see its a doll lol, but they only had like one day to shoot that scene and also they were out of budget lol.

Hmmm i thought Bayer was just a music video director but Alpha Dog i don't know if you mentioning that was meant to detract from Bayers credability because in my opinion Alpha Dog was excellent. Still look at all the horrible writer/director combos on the Nightmare, Friday, Halloween, and Hellraiser sequels and nobody makes a big stink until they are remade...honestly once you take Jason to space and have him fight Freddy where the hell else can you take him but a remake? Don't give me a "they should just stop" because you don't stop Jason just like you don't stop Dracula, or vampires or werewolves or James freakin Bond they are too iconic to just fade away

I'm always keen on remakes. Hopefully they can get the ending of this right, though, and make it not look so stupid when Freddy pulls the Mom through the door window. I mean, sure it's old graphics, but that was stupid looking even by old movie standards.....

They already put in discussion Twisted that they would either choose between a Nightmare Prequel or a sequel to Freddy vs Jason.

But since Wes craven got stuck on how to begin a Nightmare Prequel or even think of any ideas and complicated matters arised at getting the subsidary rights for the character of Ash off Sam Raimi.

I guess they decided to drop both of them and just do a remake of both franchises.

Kyle...
Bayer ain't a new director, his been in the business for years, it just that he has never worked on a film slated as the director's position, he did titles for Alpha Dog (the one with Justin Timberlake).
He has a current directorial role on a film called Fiasco Heights which is a thriller about a hitman, a failed private eye and their search for a missing woman and a valuable brief case, which is due out this year.
Other than that all his credentials are Music Videos for mainly rock bands, according to a bit i found out the only thing i've seen that he has directed is the music video to
Green Day - Boulveyard of Broken Dreams.
The rest of his directed music video credentials i haven't seen.

But this team that has been made doesn't work,
Samuel Bayer & Wesley Strick.
A veteran screenwriter (of weak horror, Doom... his best credntials are Archanophobia & Wolf)

With a veteran music video director.

directing and writing a remake of one of the biggest horror iconic characters and franchise of classic early 80s horror

For everyone wondering about Freddy vs. Jason 2, in the new Fangoria magazine it is discussed and the answer given is that at this time they have no plans to ever do another one. I guess because they are jump starting the films again. I really wanted to see Ash vs. Freddy vs. Jason. The comic was good,but film is better.

Wesley has written some good movies and some bad but guilty pleasure movies if anyone's interested he's written or co-written
True Believer
Cape Fear
Arachnophobia
The Saint
The Glass House
Doom
Return To Paradise

If they do change things change that ending. It's got to be the most convoluted ending in horror film history. It's such a stereotypical "hand pop out of the ground" ending. I'm cool with this remake for a few reasons 1. This franchise has been run into the ground with terrible sequels which oddly enough people seem to be ok with crappy sequels but go ape $hit over a remake 2. It's bringing a new director into play seeing as it's his first major studio film he probably doesn't want to start off his career with a flop and will put effort into the project. 3. Freddy is as iconic as Franenstein and Dracula and deserves to be remade every few decades even if it's just for nostalgia's sake

Oh my whats this???? Oh i see its another remake!!!!!
WOOP DEEE DOOO.

Yeah, NLD. Sad ending, though.

Mine is the 1968 Night of the Living dead. Now THERE was a horror film with brains... Hmmmm... Brains... :P

michael bay is like the remake of ted turner from the 90s.

in the 1990s ted turner was constantly colorizing classic b/w films that didn't need to be colorized, and it drove people crazy.
in the 2k's michael bay is remaking classic horror movies that dont need to be remade, and its driving people crazy.

i dont have any conclusions from this concept, but its something that crossed my mind and i thought id share it with you folks.

I don't get why they just don't make a prequel to the Nightmare Franchise it makes much more sense.

LOL Killerman it looks like we have something in common, A Nightmare On Elm Street is also my favourite horror film ever.

what ever happened to freddy VS jason round 2????

See that's exactly what I don't get about remakes either. If you wanna REVAMP an already good movie, then fine, use a new story with the same character. But if you think the original's so good that you wanna be faithful to it, then why the hell are you remaking it in the first place?!?!?! And why is it that no one remembers to remake the CRAPPY movies made in the past, only the classics?!!

Well then what the hell is the point of remaking this film if and I quote: "It looks like this new A Nightmare on Elm Street will borrow a lot from the 1984 version."

LEAVE IT ALONE AND COME UP WITH YOUR OWN NEW SHIT....STOP REMAKING MOVIES THAT DO NOT NEED TO BE REMADE....

It's a money thing mostly. It's an easy cash in of course they are going to remake it dur. But I mean the generation below us, the 15-18 year olds now have never watched any of those old films cause well, they are ghetto lol. Not bad, just ghetto. Most people will only watch new up-to-date movies. You guys saw it back then so that was different. If you haven't seen any old horror movie ever and decided today you wanted to rent one, you'd think it'd suck major ass cause it's old. But since you've seen it a long time ago, your opinion is biased. The only old movies I can stand are Ghostbusters 1 & 2, TMNTs, & Bill & Ted movies. That's my limit. They are pretty ghetto too, but since I saw them back then, I like them now. The only reason why you guys are bitching about Freddy or other horror remakes.

...A reboot of Critters would be pretty epic.

Will be intresting to see how this one comes out

COME ON ALREADY!!.come up with some new villians for christ sake FUCK!..they say two heads are better than one...SO HOW MANY FUCKIN WRITERS AND EMPLOYEES DO THESE STUDIO COMPANIES HIRE THAT CAN'T COME UP WITH AN ORIGINAL FUCKIN HORROR VILLIAN?!?...
WHAT'S NEXT?..OH LEMME GUESS THE REBOOT OF CRITTERS?!

come on homba, don't tell me you fall for that remake, re imagining bullshit. It's the same thing. All that is is a little twist of wording to get you to spend money on it. Like Halloween. They call it a re imagining, but it's still a remake, because it's still redoing the first one. If they're doing freddy like this. Remake. If the sequels ruined, there's no point in bringing them back. Just leave them in the ground. Now, Friday the 13th that's a different story. That's the truest form of a reboot, such as Batman Begins. Not a remake of the first. Just a whole new beginning. These horror icons are done, finished. Nothing can bring them back. Not even these remakes or reboots. They need to just focus on making new icons. A nightmare on elm street is my favorite horror movie of all time, and i would hate to see this remade because i know there's no way in hell it would ever live up. So like Diaigma says, Pass.

As always, pass.

I never cared much for the Nightmare movies, so i don't care one way of another if it bombs or not. BUT - if they do a good job, it could be a killer restart (no punn intended). I agree that Englund is the only right choice to play Freddy, but how many more years can he still pull it off? And is he willing to continue at his age?

cool!