Ben Affleck's Batman Will Be Tired and Weary in 'Man of Steel 2'

A Warner Bros. CEO reveals Bruce Wayne will be a seasoned superhero when he first meets Superman in this sequel.
ben Affleck's Batman will be tired and weary in Man of Steel 2
ben Affleck's Batman will be tired and weary in Man of Steel 2
Warner Bros. CEO Kevin Tsujihara spoke earlier today at the Bank of America Merrill Lynch Media, Communications and Entertainment Conference, where he described Ben Affleck's take on the Dark Knight in Man of Steel 2, calling this version of the superhero a seasoned veteran when he first meets Henry Cavill's Superman.

This is how the new Batman was sold to investors.

"[He will be] tired and weary and seasoned and [he's] been doing it for awhile.


The CEO also addressed the casting of Ben Affleck, which caused a firestorm of controversy on the Internet when it was announced last month, with many fans lobbying to oust the actor out of the role with various petitions.

"[He is] perfect. We think it's going to be huge. [The studio] could not be happier. We think it's the perfect springboard for Batman and Superman"


Man of Steel has gone onto earn over $660 million worldwide. Kevin Tsujihara ended his speech by revealing that a lot of announcements are expected to come out of the DC Comics' unit at Warner Bros. He then followed this up by noting the fact that the studio currently has three DC-based animated shows on the air right now. So its not known what kind of announcements are expected, and they may not have anything to do with the film side of the DC universe.

What do you think? Are you excited to see a more seasoned, and exhausted Dark Knight? Or do you wish Superman was going up against the vigilante at a younger age?

Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice comes to theaters March 25th, 2016 and stars Henry Cavill, Ben Affleck, Amy Adams, Diane Lane, Laurence Fishburne, Gal Gadot, Jesse Eisenberg, Jeremy Irons. The film is directed by Zack Snyder.



Sources: Variety

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  1. Tomp1210

    @gumperman I'll just add another little subject for debate - Clark's powers, I liked that it was about control etc. and they tried to go that route - anyone seen Superman Unbound? Anyway I liked the connection, and Faora was a pretty psycho villain, which is good, but makes you think - get there Supes, ffs!!! lol.

    Anyway, one thing I particularly didn't like about the movie was that they emphasised the fact that Clark had been absorbing the sun-rays for his whole life, but is basically on the same level as Zod by the end - strange atmos = instantly no powers, kinda felt empty. I think they should have gone the route of slow-drain, like in Smallville tv show, near the end, when he can super sprint from kryptonite, with the 'atmosphere' angle, but to bind him etc. at the end - I think they should have 'extracted' his powers somewhat - to get the dna info - like in Elysium if you've seen it (thus making it a harder choice for Clark at the end - because it makes it like by killing Zod, he is killing a part of himself (would just put emphasis on the 'hope for Krypton' aspect beyond Zod's planet-forming - especially if he put it in himself).

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  2. Tomp1210

    @gumperman It had something to do with the new tech extremis I think, but yeh the suit fireworks was kinda annoying, loved seeing the hulkbuster for a sec though, I guess if he could have them all the time, then he wouldn't be as much of a hero - splitting himself too much. I liked IM 3, but two things annoyed me - the little orphan kid being a tech-wiz or whatever - didn't need additional affinity - was like Mary Jane being employed at the lab in Spiderman, and the 2nd was that the suits felt even lighter and flimsier than they seemed in IM 2's portable (somehow carriable version lol). I preferred the first movie when the technology of the suit carried more... weight? lol, now they were zipping around in pieces.

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  3. Tomp1210

    by reposts I meant that when you click the button sometimes it posts your message several times without registering it, annoying

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  4. Tomp1210

    Gah, friggin reposts

    @gumperman We'll see, I hope that's the case, because the Justice League is kinda depending on 3-dimensional characters, and the details of the story don't hack it by themselves. The fact remains that they painted him about as heroic as the Hulk in a videogame, but I guess you don't blame the parents for a todler tantrum (ok, a little harsh lol) although maybe they could make that cool character development in the movie to come - seperating Clark and Supes, and appropriating the fact that he is considered a superhero now etc. there is indeed still hope...

    I wonder what Zod's symbol meant...lol

    1 year agoby @tomp1210Flag

  5. gumperman

    @tomp1210 I didn't see MAN OF STEEL as an adverts for violence. He is still young & learning who he is, which makes him way more relatable then ever before. Yes, he acted irrationally and destroyed some things, (we all have, but not to that extent since we don't have those powers) which I'm sure will be adressed in the next film, but the villians distroyed 10x as more and if not for Superman & the military, they would have the destroyed the whole world. Like it or not, you have look at it as a new story, the very beginnings of one still, that we've never seen before. The second one, and this is all just my guess and hope, will continue his growth and deal with the choices he made in the first one. He will learn from them and be the wiser and more of the Superman that we always new him as. Again, that's just my hope.

    1 year agoby @gumpermanFlag

  6. gumperman

    @mieko-siede I agree, Batman will come to Metropolis to see for himself if this Alien can be trusted. And yeah, I'm sure Clark will never even think about killing anyone again, after what he had to do. I don't think he will have to kill other impending threats from the stars, and I agree it could be a strong possibility that he may be forced with that decision, but I hope by then he will have become more wise and not even consider that a decision. Plus, he will have other heros working with him by then I would think. JUSTICE LEAGUE. Plus I don't think other beings will ever be as strong as him, so he wouldn't be as worried about them killing everyone on earth as much. I think too part of the reason he killed Zod was he himself was afraid of his own powers still and was still unaware of his limits fully and afraid of what Zod would do once he fully realized he had all of those powers. I mean Zod knew he was more powerful then everyone on earth, but he still didn't know what he could fully do. Clark was still learning and for all of his life up to that point basically and he was told to not use his powers and to hide them. Zod was a quick adapter and would learn his powers faster if given the chance. Anyway, enough of that ramblance.

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  7. gumperman

    @undeadslayer4 I wasn't aware that everyone hates it, I thought most people enjoyed it, at least from what I've heard. I know a lot of people disliked the second one though. But all of that is irrelavant to me anyway as I form my own opinion when I watch a film. Also, I'm not sure why Stark blew up those suits. Because he wanted to? That would be my answer for him taking the metal out of his chest too, because he wanted it out of his chest. Frankly I'm surprised he waited this long.

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  8. Mieko_Siede

    @tomp1210 I actually like that. The Rorschach feel seems appropriate given that he was essentially a copy of Batman's persona. We haven't quite seen the obsessive Batman on screen yet.

    1 year agoby @mieko-siedeFlag

  9. Mieko_Siede

    @gumperman They almost have to use that as a basis for Batman to even take interest outside of Gotham. And Clark has to battle with the decision he was forced to make in killing Zod to reconcile how he'd handle enemies in the future. It's a given he'd never be forced to kill a mortal man. But will he have to kill again to protect us from other impending threats from the stars? In reality it's a strong possibility.

    1 year agoby @mieko-siedeFlag

  10. Montablitz

    I bet he sounds stupid as batman

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  11. undeadslayer4

    @gumperman ok then explain why everyone hates it and second why stark had to blow up all his suits in the end and that tiny piece of metal that was stuck a mm away from his heart

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  12. gumperman

    @mieko-siede Yeah, I hope that they do deal with the aftermath of what happened in the first movie for sure, I think it will be really interesting if done right.

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  13. Tomp1210

    @mieko-siede It's funny that people used to make a big deal about Superman being identifiable with his glasses, but strolling into the daily planet after that monstrosity was just arrogant XD.

    Yeh I think if they are going to do Batman, his persona should be intensified, almost like an addiction - like Rorshak (probs wrong spelling lol). That way you can really bring a fear-based, almost alien-looking Batman into play, something that rubbed off of Bale too quickly.

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  14. Mieko_Siede

    @gumperman I don't want to see Frank Miller's story, but I do want to see the Miller-like Batman. Deeply scarred and brooding. Nearly psychopathic to a point that he appears he may go too far. Enough to cause a conflict in the thinking between Clark and Batman. Though, given all Clark is going to be dealing with in the aftermath of MOS I doubt that will be the conflict at all. I think it would come more from a place a paranoia on Batman's behalf.

    1 year agoby @mieko-siedeFlag

  15. gumperman

    @undeadslayer4 I disagree, about IM2 being better than 3. IM3 I felt, brought it back to the feel of IM1, but didn't make it exactly the same and I thought it was a good story. IM2, I don't think added anything to the storyline of Tony Stark and in my opinion can be skipped when watching the Marvel Films as a whole. Well that and THE INCREDIBLE HULK. The only thing you need to know from IM2 is why Rhodes now has a Iron Man suit, but that's all I can think of since I haven't seen the film in a long time. Also, I'm not sure what you mean by Nolan trashing TDKR or it being Ledgers fault, but to each their own.

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  16. gumperman

    @CoreyB I know what you mean, I watched all of the DARK KNIGHT movies a few months ago and I agree, they are in a league of their own. Wonderful films! And I love Wally Pfisters work too! Also, like you said, "I just cant see him at this point in his career making a dumb decision. He must have an exact purpose for what he wants to contribute". Have you heard Kevin Smith talk about it? He says the same thing basically, "Ben Affleck wouldn't take this roll to ruin it and doesn't want it to fail." So yeah, he knows what he's doing.

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  17. gumperman

    @mieko-siede Yeah, that's what I was thinking too, that they would should his backstory in flashbacks like MOS & BB, but thought maybe he would be narrating it like Jor-El & Zod did to Kal when they were talking about the past. I agree too that they do need a little backstory told, even though we all know it to some extent, because this is a new Batman and things wouldn't have happened exactly the same in BATMAN BEGINS or even BATMAN (89).

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  18. undeadslayer4

    @CoreyB i only know argo

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  19. undeadslayer4

    @tomp1210 i never seen them mention gotham when i watched the movie

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  20. undeadslayer4

    @CoreyB i agree but only dkr was horrible dark knight and batman begins i really liked but unfortunately i disagree about what u said whenever something like this in most movies it usually turns to be a dissapoinment like what happened the gi joe

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  21. undeadslayer4

    @gumperman dude im2 was better than im3 and the director copied the story outline from dkr which made it completely horrible and from ur point of view i do agree that dark knight and batman begins were the best films out of the trilogy but this cannot be the reason why nolan hate to just trash dkr like that and it was ledger's fault as well

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  22. Tomp1210

    @CoreyB An example of under-development was the fact that the uzis didn't flash in the stock market, they just pointed the guns and sparks erupted, and the cpr in the plane was clearly not being done, just to give a few examples of technical annoyances that brought focus down a bit for me.

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  23. Tomp1210

    @CoreyB DKR was a grade down from the first 2 IMO, it just had so many underdeveloped elements for me, and Bane out-stealthing him pissed me off beyond belief, he bested Raaz after all. My favourite would have been The Dark Knight, but Maggie Gyllenhaal's take-over lessened the loss of the character that was built by Katie.

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  24. CoreyB

    @undeadslayer4 Bale would come back if Nolan asked him he has said it a few times. That whole interview he had like 3 months ago saying lets not get greedy blah blah was so taken out of context its not even funny. (Much like his 50 mill offer was fake.) He made these movies w/Nolan to tell a story. Nolan felt like it was told and 3 movies could do that. He said in that interview that no1 has had a conversation about JLeague with him and he is looking forward to the next actor. He was probably told thats it for our story. I mean look at that trilogy its phenomenal. Bale wouldve come back if Nolan was like ok our Batman will be involved, but Nolan created something seperate and I respect that. He never said I dont want to be Batman nemore

    1 year agoby @CoreyBFlag

  25. CoreyB

    @gumperman Perfect what you said. He could play the part much like his role in life. I started TDK trilogy last night and Begins is great and has def stood the test of time over last 8 years. The Dark Knight is monumental to say the least and Heath Ledger owns the screen. I started Rises lateee last night so had to pause around Batmans first appearence after stock exchange hit, but will bang the rest out today. Rises is so beautiful to look at I dont understand how Wally Pfister was recognized by the Academy for cinematography! Rises is powerful and wraps it up nicely. (Rises may be my fav one...funny 2 days ago idve told u TDKnight was it hands down.) Give it some time tho because Rises truly is something great. These movies are in a league of their own like LOTR and Star Wars...Godfather etc. But it is exciting to prepare for what Ben can bring. I just cant see him at this point in his career making a dumb decision. He must have an exact purpose for what he wants to contribute

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  26. CoreyB

    @undeadslayer4 The Town (2010) and Argo (2012) not major movies??? Also directed Gone Baby Gone (2007) The guy knows how to tell a story and I think he has taken that into his acting. I'm telling you 2007 was the year Ben Affleck turned it all around. but cmon man Argo won best picture and Argo/The Town made a combined 386 million worldwide (both R rated movies.) thats not too shabby

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  27. CoreyB

    @diaigma I would argue that we already got him...Christian Bale was perfect imo. I am actually currently watchin tdk trilogy (for the 100th time lol) and he was superb

    1 year agoby @CoreyBFlag

  28. Tomp1210

    @diaigma The funny thing is I cast Ben as a GL reboot/ carry-on for that too, so it's weird seeing this development

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  29. Tomp1210

    @diaigma I would've cast David Boreanaz as Batman in my JL fan-fic angelataratuta.com/portfolio/justice-league

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  30. Tomp1210

    @gumperman found another way :) Superheroes are meant to be role-models, not adverts for violence. Really they should have made the military useful and created a phantom zone generator, or a friggin stargate or something (sent them billions of miles away, a la Black Adam) with the help of Jor-El, then through this partnership allow him his sanctuary from the world by allowing him privacy when he makes the fortress, but nah, they just made him an inconsiderate ejit who destroys other peoples stuff.

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